. Or to keep it anonymous, click here. She sided with the Viet Cong as revolutionary liberators. And she travelled to Hanoi at a time when North Vietnamese soldiers were killing Americans. JANE FONDA: It was a terrible mistake. And I didnt even think and they sang me a song and Im made me laugh. FONDA: I'm charging the government with genocide, with genocide. WebNevertheless, there are Vietnam veterans out there who served in the war zone before 1969 who are convinced that Jane Fonda was in cahoots with the Commies during their own MacArthur soon realized he was expected to win battles but lose the war. She posed on an anti-aircraft gun used to shoot down our American pilots. It's not just handing out, you know, blankets. You know, I have an organization in Georgia that deals with adolescents, and Ive studied parenting. Almost all the messages said we had no business writing about Fonda because she was a traitor. We once published an admiring profile of Benedict Arnoldwhose actions did the nation real damage in a way Fondas fulminations never couldand nobody made a peep. Please try again later. In July 1972, during the waning days of U.S. military involvement in Vietnam, actress Jane Fonda incurred the enmity of untold thousands of Vietnam veterans and their families (as well as service members for generations to come) when she arrived in Hanoi, North Vietnam, and began a two-week tour of the country. COLMES: Many of us forgive many of us forgive George W. Bush (search) for being young and irresponsible, and maybe we can also forgive Jane Fonda. In 1972, Fonda toured North Vietnam, where she spoke against U.S. military policy in the country. 5:15 After numerous apologies over four decades, its time to let Hanoi Jane Fonda off the hook for Vietnam. Congress held hearings. Mao Tse-Tung, of "Little Red Book" fame, and darling of the New York-Hollywood "elite", then proceeded to murder 65 million of his countrymen in what David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski call "a glorious revolution." If even one of them were true, it would change the entire focus of my article. He collects a group of American POWs from their septic dungeons, cleans them up, and has them mustered on parade to show his guest how well his embattled nation treats its prisoners. She called the POW's liars. All of the facts, in retrospect, lead to the conclusion that the U.S. government's purpose in dragging America into Korea was not to defeat communism but to kill as many Americans as possible in an ignoble defeat, get rid of the hero MacArthur as a possible presidential nominee, and lure a disillusioned America into acceptance of one world government. The cover called her Ms. We have no right to attack that country. And you were photographed sitting on an anti aircraft gun. Its going to look like I was trying to shoot down U.S. planes! CHRIS WALLACE: When you got that nickname Hanoi Jane, how did you feel at the time? I believe Jane Fonda has talked to at least two historians. It wasnt firing at the time, and Fonda said in 2011 she hardly even thought about where I was sitting and that it is possible that it was a set up, that the Vietnamese During her two-week stay, Fonda concluded that America HANNITY: All right. She was reportedly also an aspirant for a role on "Fox & Friends," the network's morning show. COLMES: She didn't say the words she wanted her to say. So I feel that well If I did was good, except that I shouldnt have set gone out to a military place. A Vietnam War photographer captured the bloody Tet offensive. Fonda wasnt deterred. Christopher Andersen, Citizen Jane (New York: Henry Holt and Company. This is and now she's apologizing on a book tour. It evidently didnt. Forget? Due to the pressure of so-called "rationalists", Article VI, Paragraph 3 of the Constitution forbids Congress from excluding Communists, Anti-Semites, or Globalists from its membership, allowing the control that you decry. The war was being fought by the air during during the Nixon administration. Have a tip or story idea? She now hosts "New Day" on CNN. The Washington Post spent that day with Fonda, following her and a dozen or so students to Fort Meade in Maryland, where they planned to hand out antiwar leaflets to soldiers. In it, she apologizes once again for insulting the men and women who fought in Vietnam. "Because of this," the narrative continues, "I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a piece of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped." "There's no disputing that Jane Fonda toured North Vietnam, propagandized on behalf of the communists, and participated in an orchestrated "press conference" with American POWs in 1972. ET!. I said that the POWs claiming torture were liars, hypocrites, and pawns. They have never acknowledged their role in the killing fields of Cambodia and fail to discuss the fact that Vietnam, one of about four communist countries left on the face of this earth, is currently at the bottom rung of third world nations in terms of per capita income. Manywere there to protest the Vietnam War. Truman refused. After Fonda returned from hertrip, the State Department spoke out against her. And by the way, did our government lie to us during Vietnam? I spent many years its when I made coming home talking to American soldiers, who had been in Vietnam and the things they told me were heartbreaking. Im not you know, they all went to jail. More than 58,000 Americans died in the war.. Article 3, section three of the Constitution defines treason as "levying war against the United States or adhering to their enemies or giving them aid and comfort.". [3] And she referred to the POW's as hypocrites and liars.[4]. The alleged mission was to prevent communism from spreading to South Korea, a peninsula pointed at now disarmed Japan. However, it was a bit too long, and Dr. Shenkman needed it shortened in the interest of time. After all, she is an American; surely shell carry the message home to the families that their husband or son is alive. America. The Ms. , we thought, would signal a bit of ironic distance from the broad, ingenu- ous affection contained in Miss America., It evidently didnt. I feel sorry for NORTH: She didn't apologize, Alan. Again the secret policy of the financiers was: "containment of communism" while disallowing an American victory. North Vietnamese press reported and Fonda later confirmed that she made several radio announcements over the Voice of Vietnam radio to implore U.S. pilots to stop the bombings. I would like to hear more about this. The answer, of course, is that they won't. She is the daughter of legendary actor and WWII Naval Officer Henry Fonda. Market data provided by Factset. Copyright 1949-2022 American Heritage Publishing Co. All Rights Reserved. This "police action" quickly developed into a full-blown but undeclared war. Johnson solemnly announced that "Communist aggression must be stopped as a threat to American security!" [5] One man who was supposed to have encountered Jane Fonda, one Colonel Larry Carrigan, has denied any claim that he ever met her. CHRIS WALLACE: Who the people in the Nixon administration? They held signs that read Forgive? But it wasnt untilshe traveled to Hanoi in July 1972 that she really enraged criticsand fundamentally altered how the world viewed her for decades to come. During an interview with Barbara Walters 35 years ago, Oscar-winning actress Jane Fonda apologized for being used as propaganda for North Vietnam when we were still fighting North Vietnam. Rudi Bakhtiar jumped from CNN to Fox News in 2006. Fonda has refused to tell her side of the story to historians investigating her role, purportedly because she was saving her story for her own memoirs, which are expected to be published soon. When Jane Fonda Rocked the U.S. Army A newly exhumed documentary delves into the actresss anti-Vietnam vaudeville tour of American military bases in 1972. Number two: You've got the POW meeting, where she sits down and holds a press conference for propaganda purposes with these prisoners of war. And, you know, I think they thought, Oh, shes this white privilege rich, famous daughter of all of that stuff. However, the allegation that she abused American POWs is not true. : Yes, that one story was true. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. We now see a pattern of sedition/treason. But Troop B, 2nd squadron, 17th Cavalry, RVN, 1969-70
In replying, I discovered that the Good Book notwithstanding, a soft answer turneth away wrath no more than zo percent of the time. Hundreds of Americans had gone to North Vietnam, journalists diplomats, our Secretary of State Ramsey Clark, Vietnam veterans, but I said but a movie star hasnt gone and maybe if I go it will draw more attention, and thats what it did. The day anti-Vietnam War protesters tried to levitate the Pentagon. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. It wasnt firing at the time, and Fonda said in 2011 she hardly even thought about where I was sitting and that itis possible that it was a set up, that the Vietnamese had it all planned.. Here's the record, number one: you've got the photo on the anti-aircraft gun that you add on during the transition. One showed her applauding North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gunners. In another she was looking into the But because of the nature of Vietnam, McNamara said to me, if wed known what we know now it would have we should not have gone out. Heres the picture that was used to shut shut down American plants, critics, and there were millions of them, called you a Hanoi Jane and said you were a traitor. Imagine its the Battle of the Bulge and Betty Grable is up on top of a German tank saying the Yanks are fighting an evil war. Its not a preposterous analogynot as far as the soldiers involved are concerned. Legal Statement. But when you know why you did something, and youre willing to admit the mistakes that you made, but stand up for the things that you did that that mattered? The other stories allege a far more direct participation in war crimes on the part of Fonda. Youre gonna come through it, okay. If a prisoner tried to escape, it is quite understandable that he would probably be beaten and tortured.. You know, we can we can scare her, and boy did they try? The chance to remake oneself is a universally acknowledged strength of this Republic, and the Republic itself has done it often enough. But he never met Jane Fonda, and he has no idea how the maddening tale attached itself to him. Trusted Writing on History, Travel, and American Culture Since 1949. To license content, please contact licenses [at] americanheritage.com. Listen closely. Urban Legends story then identifies the POW and gives some quotes about his treatment by the NVA. Richard Morgan,
Thus, Europe, Russia, China, Korea, Viet Nam, Cambodia, Thailand, Japan, the Middle East were turned into killing grounds, and their existing governments destroyed. It was my mistake and I have paid and continue to pay a heavy price for it.. But Jane Fonda: Cancel my subscription!, In replying, I discovered that the Good Book notwithstanding, a soft answer turneth away wrath no more than zo percent of the time. Jane Fondas first impression of Americas involvement in Vietnam was that it was a just cause. ( New York: G.P. Heres a transcript of her remarks so you can judge for yourself. It was the last day of my two week time there. If I was Vietnamese, I probably would have tried to do the same thing, you know, but I should not have gone. . Oh, my God. Fifty years later, he bears witness again. quote: Fonda was a political activist in the counterculture era during the Jane Fonda came clean in an interview with Chris Wallace about her Hanoi Jane days and her failure as a mother. They realized that the war was wrong, that we werent wanted there. Nobody remembers, nobody cares. And you know, maybe I was set up but I was an adult, its Im gonna take responsibility for it. I mean, it depends on what you want to know. Heres how we saw the article we ran: It is a survey of the singular career of a woman who both drove and was driven by many of the largest social concerns of her era, and who came to embody some of them. Halyburton told him that the POW's had tried to debunk them even though they regarded Fonda as an unsympathetic figure. But Jane Fonda: Cancel my subscription! Perhaps most dramatically, in March 1973, the Maryland state legislature held a hearing to have Fonda and her films barred from the state. If it wasn't I must be missing something. ET! Status: TRUE"
Hows this for a story? It all has nothing to do with where I am sitting. Fox News has enhanced the careers of numerous women who have served as hosts. However, the fact that she advocated Communism does not give anyone license to make up stories or slander. I agree with TheWrap's Terms of Service and Privacy Policy and provide my consent to receive marketing communications from them. And I refused to have them scare me away from being actively against the Vietnam War. Hanoi Jane told 60 Minutes that photos snapped while she sat on an enemy aircraft gun was a betrayal and the largest lapse of judgment I can imagine. Though she did say, meeting the locals, other artists, and intellectuals were well worth it. And, as she does, each POW palms her a scrap of paper with his Social Security number written on it. Johnson then ordered 165,000 U.S. forces under General Westmoreland to support a handful of American "advisors" previously ordered there by former President John F. Kennedy, Democrat. After we published Peter Braunsteins article on Jane Fonda in our July/August issue, perhaps 60 people sent me this story. But he never met Jane Fonda, and he has no idea how the maddening tale attached itself to him. Watch above via HBO Max and CNNs Whos Talking to Chris Wallace. In 2015, about 50 veterans stood outside theWeinberg Center for the Arts in Frederick, Md., to protest Fondas appearance there. Switch to the dark mode that's kinder on your eyes at night time. Over the years, as Fonda reinvented herself as a fitness maven and again a movie star, she apologized many times for the antiaircraft gunphoto. This weekend's special I mean, this is very moving. For example, she went on Radio Hanoi a number of times, while our troops, your friends, were being shot at by an enemy in Vietnam, saying our POWs were in good health. North Vietnam, 1972,: Jane Fonda is in the midst of her visit when an N.V.A. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. And it was a terrible mistake because of the image that it showed, which was not at all what the reality was. Screw you. "STRATAGEMS of DEFEAT AND NO-WIN WARS
Thus, the U.S.A. deliberately betrayed its former ally Chiang Kai-Shek and gave mainland China to communism. Due to actions and images some people consider unpatriotic or treasonous, she earned I went to a session at the 2003 Peace History Society Conference in Mt. Respected online resources such as Snopes, Truth Miners, and Urban Legends have all cited key persons in the infamous email as having refuted its claims. I should have been clearer that my anger back then was at the Nixon Administration. They knew we were coming. Please, you cant let them be published. But the action that still enrages veterans most was that photograph of her with North Vietnamese troops onan antiaircraft gunthat would have been used to shoot down American planes. "War Stories," Colonel, we'll be watching this Sunday, 8 p.m. as usual. When I contacted him, Benge confirmed that the story was indeed his own, and true." I'm sorry I hurt you, Alan, and I hope you can forgive me." In no sense am I a Fonda apologist. In Hanoi, Fonda also met with seven American POWs and later said they asked her to tell their friends and family to support presidential candidate George McGovern; they feared theyd never be freed during a Richard Nixon administration. I am going to let the extract stand as it is, containing just enough truth to be uncomfortable, I think. The one story that was true never touched the question of whether or not she directly participated in war crimes. In July of 1972, she made two trips to But literally working hand-in-hand with the enemy to promote their cause to a worldwide audience was not protected by the First Amendment then just as it is not protected now. And the question I have is 50 years later, how do you look back on that particular chapter? SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Jane Fonda says she is sorry for some of her actions during the Vietnam War. She has to be a murderess too. She went to tour the countrys dike system, which was rumored to have been intentionally bombed by American forces something the U.S. government to this day forcefully denies. AND
Do any right-wingers ever decry the fact that Bush and the conservatives overthrew Aristide because he was a socialists----then invited the Chinese Communists in to our hemisphere? "Flashpoint Vietnam," the real story about the road to the war. By July 1972, when Fonda accepted an invitation to visit North Vietnam, America had been at war overseas and with itself for years. Andrea Tantaros, former co-host of "The Five," filed a lawsuit saying that Fox News operated like a "sex-fueled, Playboy-Mansion-like cult.". JANE FONDA: it was a mistake to go, I never wanted to go to any military installations. There is no doubt these treasonous no-win US wars were meant to disillusion the American nation into accepting loss of sovereignty and one world government." Nobody remembers, nobody cares. I mean, you know, of all manner of slings and arrows were thrown my way. The story surfaced on the Internet in 1999, and my guess is that it will live there a long time. I mean, the reality of it is that's not an apology. I dug in my heels. Nevertheless, there are Vietnam veterans out there who served in the war zone before 1969 who are convinced that Jane Fonda was in cahoots with the Commies during their own tours. She visited Russia in the early Sixties, and was personally impressed by the deference she received. Jane didnt make her infamous and idiotic trip to Hanoi until 1972. And that we probably couldnt win it not because they werent a fabulous soldiers. How did we get into this war? During the photo sessions during her visit to Vietnam, she strongly believed were setups and a grave mistake on her part. The 85-year-old Fonda has had a lengthy career as a Hollywood icon that includes her current turn in the film 80 For Brady, an equally long stint as an outspoken liberal, a fitness craze that began in the infancy of home video, and much more. Credit: Bettmann Archive/Getty Images "It was a very tumultuous and polarized time," she said in the HBO documentary. NORTH: Well, all I did was present the facts. Yeah, said my stepdaughter, Jill, when I told her about this. You're a great American. quote: Yeah, said my stepdaughter, Jill, when I told her about this. A young photographer took this harrowing image of the Vietnam War. Jane Fonda was more than just an actress born to a wealthy and prominent Hollywood family. It was the last day of my two week time there. And you were photographed sitting on an anti aircraft gun. I remember one retired lieutenant colonel describing a conversation he had with an angry trooper about the treasonous behavior of Jane Fonda in the midst of the 1968 Tet Offensive.
MacArthur was denied his request to attack enemy forces massing across the Yalu border in preparation for attack. Thats what made me laugh. JANE FONDA: I know what Im doing. Whereupon Truman dismissed MacArthur for insubordination. [5]http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp; http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa110399b.htm; http://www.truthminers.com/truth/hanoi_jane.htm; cited on November 24, 2004. Thank you, sir. Imagine its the Battle of the Bulge and Betty Grable is up on top of a German tank saying the Yanks are fighting an evil war. Its not a preposterous analogynot as far as the soldiers involved are concerned. To begin with, the title is deliberately misleading: his real point has nothing to do with Jane Fonda. In 1972, actress Jane Fonda traveled to North Vietnam on an anti-war mission. And I was I was like a limp noodle what I had experienced and what I had seen, I just I wasnt able to resist, they said were gonna take you out here today. And four months later, the bombing stopped of the dikes. What followed was a long-lasting wave of criticism and international outrage that earned Fonda the nickname " Each of them suggested that they had done at least one interview with Fonda, and individually they were looking into the historical accuracy behind the claims made about Fonda and why she became such a lighting rod for controversy. I mean, that's like the bank robber saying, "I'm sorry I got caught.". . That's an apology. Outspoken host Elisabeth Hasselbeck left "The View" to join "Fox & Friends" in 2013, which she exited at the end of 2015. My question is, when will people like Fonda and Kerry (unlike Joan Baez) take responsibility for what they have wrought -- the totalitarian system that gave us re-education camps and the boat people? This article was published more than4 years ago. The POWs who were there have denied that this ever occurred. After we published Peter Braunsteins article on Jane Fonda in our July/August issue, perhaps 60 people sent me this story. Laurie Dhue was a familiar presence on Fox in the early 2000s but left the network in 2008. In 2005, she apologized again on 60 The story surfaced on the Internet in 1999, and my guess is that it will live there a long time. 1972: 'Hanoi' Jane--Text from CNN.com, "Vietnam: Echoes of War, Cultural Timeline" Jane Fonda -- actress, political activist and partner of anti-war [1] According to a recent email that circulated to various Vietnam veterans, Fonda reportedly beat one POW, and betrayed the confidence of another, resulting in his death. Her visit actually took place in 1972. . It meant re-taking the same bloody ground over and over again. As in Korea, communist spies within the U.S. government released vital information to the enemy. JANE FONDA: Well, I didnt like it. He collects a group of American POWs from their septic dungeons, cleans them up, and has them mustered on parade to show his guest how well his embattled nation treats its prisoners. There was a real Colonel Carrigan, and he was a POW in Vietnam. By July 1972, when Fonda accepted an invitation to visit North Vietnam, America had been at war overseas and with itself for years. Peter Braunsteins article speculated that Jane Fonda had this ability to a degree unique in modern times. The people who are speaking out against the war are the patriots. She said the radio addresses were the only way to get access to American soldiers, because she was barred from meeting them at their bases in South Vietnam. Her suit was later settled for a reported $20 million. Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions.
She did not merely criticize the authoritarian government of South Vietnam, or the dubious motives of powerful corporations that make up the American military-industrial complex. The charges against Fonda went beyond the notion that she was an apologist for the mistreatment of American prisoners of war. She said: I have very few regrets. I think so, and I would hope that all Americans will at least speak their minds at the movie box office and refuse to further enrich one of the greatest American traitors. Watch "Hannity & Colmes" weeknights at 9 p.m. They realized that the war was wrong, that we werent wanted there. Here's what she's got. "Claim: POWs were beaten for refusing to cooperate or meet with Fonda during her visit. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. So I ask, should she have been put on trial for treason? Whether Fonda wanted to shame troops is subjective. She has said that she regrets doing this. Id been getting pretty sour about the incensed patriots who would curse me and my family and confidently speak on behalf of all veterans living and dead, and the Great Jehovah and the Continental Congress, to declare I was a disgrace to America for running that storythen conclude by smugly assuring me they would never read it. We're trained. SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Jane Fonda says she is sorry for some of her actions during the Vietnam War. It hurts me, she said, and it will to my grave that I made a huge, huge mistake that made a lot of people think I was against the soldiers., The Dragon Lady: How Madame Nhu helped escalate the Vietnam War. The chance to remake oneself is a universally acknowledged strength of this Republic, and the Republic itself has done it often enough. Its something very like the worst sort of lovers betrayal, the deep wound that time itself often is powerless to heal. She was dubbed "Hanoi Jane" after traveling to the Communist capital. [email protected]. A new HBO documentary on Fondas life, Jane Fonda in Five Acts, explores the fallout for the actress, who is now 80. Read on. Sending Out Veterans' Benefits, The Executive Branchs Response to the Flood of 1927, The Case For Calling the Language "American", America Fought Its Own Battle Over Books Before it Fought the Nazis. She has to be a murderess too. It sounds loony until you actually think about it - and the general thesis of "no-win wars" (i.e. MacArthur complained that his conduct of the war was compromised by spies within the U.S. government: "The enemy receives my (Pentagon) directives before I do". At the time, Hanoi Jane was serenaded with a Communist folk song and was led to a weapon that had shot down many American aircraft, and photos were immediately taken. Even so, I'm going to keep an eye open to purchase one of the urinal mats with her photograph depicted upon it. And exocide (ph) and biocide. I want you to go home and say, "I'm sorry I got caught doing the wrong thing.". Us veterans will never forget or forgive her posing on a North Viet anti-aircraft gun, regardless whatever else she may or may not have done. All rights reserved. I mean, he realized that. Id been getting pretty sour about the incensed patriots who would curse me and my family and confidently speak on behalf of all veterans living and dead, and the Great Jehovah and the Continental Congress, to declare I was a disgrace to America for running that storythen conclude by smugly assuring me they would never read it. Enjoy the rest of the conversation. And you were photographed sitting on an anti aircraft gun. In her book, she says she's a Christian. Subsequently communist China was awarded a permanent seat on the U.N. Security Council, its most powerful chair. 1991) Pages 225-229. Liberals in America's streets "protested" our victories and exulted in our defeats - thus, in patriots' eyes, giving the war a raison d'etre. I find that intolerable.. Fonda shakes the last hand, then turns to the officer and gives him the fistful of messages. No, after the Left's "victory" in the United State's withdrawal from Southeast Asia, the matter of consequences was conveniently dropped from the discussion. It was to these traditional Americans, alienated by the Sixties, that the email was targeted, playing on their hopes that finally, at long last, Jane Fonda would have to answer for her choices. She has reportedly been shopping a tell-all book this year. I dont know what else to do. Kellysaid she was among those at Fox News sexually harassed by Ailes. She said:I have very few regrets. 's and eMediaMillWorks, Inc.'s copyrights or other proprietary rights or interests in the material. I have great, great children, talented, smart, and I just didnt know how to do it. HANNITY: That's quite often in my case, by the way. Heres Kellys take on what she called Fondas poor me routine. And I refused to have them scare me away from being actively against the Vietnam War. By denying their mistreatment or not investigating their treatment,in an effort to sway public opinion to her own perceived vision of the national interest, she did harm to her countrymen in captivity. Radio broadcasts, which attempted to shame American troops: Fonda did record messages that the North Vietnamese played for Americans to weaken their resolve. Watch "Hannity & Colmes" weeknights at 9 p.m. In fact, when the Tet Offensive broke, Jane Fonda was the featured pinup girl in that months issue of Leatherneck , the official publication of the Marines.. And the more they tried, the more I. JANE FONDA: I know what Im doing. I dont think they know, Fonda said in a news conference when she returned home. Youre gonna come through it, okay. It has simply been repeated over and over again, without proof, and duplicated on a number of websites. Outside of herself, she was manipulated by the experts in the Communist government who are masters in the art of propaganda. Otherwise, she wouldn't touch a weapon if she was genuinely anti-war. The reason Jane Fonda went to Vietnam was not wrong as Mr. Sollinger put it but the way she behaved while in Vietnam was unappropriate. CHRIS WALLACE: So when you say it was a terrible mistake. or redistributed. She said: I have very few regrets. Especially considering that the Republican Party has obviously now been captured by the same forces (the 'Illuminati', hehehe). I think that this is rather odd. Meanwhile the mass media suddenly reversed its pro-war policy: denying our beleaguered troops moral support from home. Here is my best, honest recollection of what took place. Shewas active in the Black Panthers and marched for the rights of American Indians, soldiers and working mothers. Thats what made me laugh. Fonda said that whileshe may have been tricked into taking the picture, The buck stops here. I mean, you know, of all manner of slings and arrows were thrown my way. Jane Fonda came clean in an interview with Chris Wallace about her Hanoi Jane days and her failure as a mother. Colonel, Michelle Malkin (search) actually discovered other quotes that she had said. If they did, can I really blame them? The reality of it is an apology is saying, "I am sorry, I really do apologize for what I did over there, and I'm asking for your forgiveness." Even Trotsky, whose philosophy I do not advocate, could see this relationship between the capitalists and the communists clearly (hypocritically denouncing it, since he went along with it). has anyone not liked their house on hometown, tuis aims and objectives, hide title attribute on hover using css,